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let us raise the debt ceiling. no strings attached. and if the president can raise it as he should be able to and if congress wants to reject it 2/3. the mcconnell proposal is a good republican proposal. i hope you support it. that's the way to go. >> a bill that says regardless of what happens with the debt ceiling, the united states will never default on the debt, would you support that or not? >> i support the concept. i'd have to look at the bill. the best way to do that is the mcconnell act. >> we may have just made news. >>> last week, general colin powell was here worried about a dark vein of intolerance in republican quarters. you are part of a stream of new faces in the republican party, minority faces and voices in the party that seem to stand against that. how did you respond to it? >> well, i saw that interview. i respect general powell a great deal. i was disappointed with those comments. i think he was buying into some of the partisan attacks. if you look at this last election, for example, i think the most racially divis
let us raise the debt ceiling. no strings attached. and if the president can raise it as he should be able to and if congress wants to reject it 2/3. the mcconnell proposal is a good republican proposal. i hope you support it. that's the way to go. >> a bill that says regardless of what happens with the debt ceiling, the united states will never default on the debt, would you support that or not? >> i support the concept. i'd have to look at the bill. the best way to do that is the...
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it is expected to pass tomorrow, an effort to push off this debt ceiling to date. something that would have really expired in a matter of weeks for another couple of months. i think we will be doing this in may, so your kid is graduating from school into a nightmare. same time, same place. same bat channel. to the flight amid the tax threat. you hear about this -- those in power don't like being taxed. so former french president out of power, nicholas sarcozey and his wife are considering fleeing frarch. phil mickelson saying the same thing. the democratic leaders here better take note, if they have the money, they will run. there are reasons for both of these guys to bring back their remarks, as you know. but they do follow a trend of folk who is have means who are saying the government -- and governments are going too far. do they have a point? >> well, i think they definitely a point, neil. economics is a very dynamic social science. there is a latin phrase that means, all things being the same. the democratic policy approach is everything's the same. we can inc
it is expected to pass tomorrow, an effort to push off this debt ceiling to date. something that would have really expired in a matter of weeks for another couple of months. i think we will be doing this in may, so your kid is graduating from school into a nightmare. same time, same place. same bat channel. to the flight amid the tax threat. you hear about this -- those in power don't like being taxed. so former french president out of power, nicholas sarcozey and his wife are considering...
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republicans came to the senses, okay, not touching the debt ceiling, let it float. in return, you see the democrats in the senate drawing up a budget. i think obama's -- his olive branch is, okay, i'll take this one extension to bring stability to the situation, but it's not happening again because we have to get the job doab. it's progress. it's better than the last few months. lou: some combative about it and characterize the president as being so contentious. it's the first intelligent step taken by the republicans and gives, you know, i i think hope to the nation, the first intelligent step taken by the president. they actually are moving towards one another. it looked to me like something we ought to be kind of saying hallelujah about other than analyzing, if i may, in such, well, i don't know, unsettling parts of the terms. >> it's progress. >> the heavy weight boxes match, they touch the gloves at the start of the fight. please, don't misinterpret that's a good sign. it's a show to the nation. lou: see, i'm surrounded by cynicism. everywhere i turn around her
republicans came to the senses, okay, not touching the debt ceiling, let it float. in return, you see the democrats in the senate drawing up a budget. i think obama's -- his olive branch is, okay, i'll take this one extension to bring stability to the situation, but it's not happening again because we have to get the job doab. it's progress. it's better than the last few months. lou: some combative about it and characterize the president as being so contentious. it's the first intelligent step...
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that would pay for the last debt ceiling increase. >> the looming deadline is march 1. deputy defense secretary ash carter warned friday that the pentagon's $800,000 civilian employees will face furloughs. and reduce paychecks starting in april, if sequestration is not avoided. pentagon is now planning to eliminate 46,000 temporary civilian workers as a result of these imminent budget cuts. >> i got a perfect storm coming up in the next few months. we have this whole crazy mechanism called sequester. that means $1 trillion will be cut across the board. $500 billion out of defense. across the board. >> in a meat ax approach that will hollow out the force if it happens. >> one of the nation's largest defense contractors general dynamics based in false church virginia reported $2 billion in losses. blaming the upcoming defense cuts. the aerospace industry association estimates that $450,000 jobs will be lost in virginia, maryland and washington, d.c. if dequest ration cuts take place in march, which could be devastating to the local economy. >> we are talking about somethi
that would pay for the last debt ceiling increase. >> the looming deadline is march 1. deputy defense secretary ash carter warned friday that the pentagon's $800,000 civilian employees will face furloughs. and reduce paychecks starting in april, if sequestration is not avoided. pentagon is now planning to eliminate 46,000 temporary civilian workers as a result of these imminent budget cuts. >> i got a perfect storm coming up in the next few months. we have this whole crazy mechanism...
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i think the debt ceiling punt was the latest example of this. the president says, if we don't do this the market is going to implode and congress puts its tail between it legs. i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we don't keep spending ourselves to death. >> i agree. congressmen have basically sent a message that today is not the day we're going to stop spending our children's and grandchildren's money, and charles is exactly right. the reason why our credit got downgraded is because of our out of control spending and out of control debt. the fiscal cliff deal even we just witnessed, it's such -- added four trillion dollars to our deficit over the next ten years. so, congress is not serious about reigning in spending and that's exactly when the we need to too. >> but they're
i think the debt ceiling punt was the latest example of this. the president says, if we don't do this the market is going to implode and congress puts its tail between it legs. i haven't heard anything from s&p or moodies who say we want the debt ceiling to go higher. everybody watching this show who has cut back 0, government has to learn how to do the same thing. it's cowardly in washington to continue to hide behind the notion that we're going to collapse overnight as a nation if we...
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they find themselves on the defensive when it comes to the debt ceiling issue. remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses? >> i think they do. gwen, i think you have to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. yes, the republicans folded on this wise wisely. finally, i think they got some smart on this. you have to pick your fights. they need a breather now. they've been on the defense for a year on tax cuts for millionaires, on toughness, shutting down the government, they're not going to compromise. they need to recalbright here, a reset button needs to be pushed and it seems like in every aspect of government.
they find themselves on the defensive when it comes to the debt ceiling issue. remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is...
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he was clearly referring to the fact that they've moved off the fight on the debt ceiling a few months. he believes he can deal with them and, as you heard, get some kind of grand bargain. i need to be convinced of that, wolf. >> part two of your interview coming up later. >> he tells us, how does he know when the president is mad at him. >> interesting to see that. thank you. good work. >>> in a moment, the latest on the breaking news we've been following a shooting at a community college in houston, texas. there's going to be a news conference from the sheriff there. we'll update you with what is going on. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where, if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that comes standard with our base auto policy. and
he was clearly referring to the fact that they've moved off the fight on the debt ceiling a few months. he believes he can deal with them and, as you heard, get some kind of grand bargain. i need to be convinced of that, wolf. >> part two of your interview coming up later. >> he tells us, how does he know when the president is mad at him. >> interesting to see that. thank you. good work. >>> in a moment, the latest on the breaking news we've been following a shooting...
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as the debt ceiling vote, which got trumped today. leon panetta saying women will be on the front lines. big news day. that is it for panel. stay tuned for a little case of deja vu. excuse me, sir i'm ga have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur stay top of mind with customers? from deals that bring them in with an offer... to social media promotions that turn fans
as the debt ceiling vote, which got trumped today. leon panetta saying women will be on the front lines. big news day. that is it for panel. stay tuned for a little case of deja vu. excuse me, sir i'm ga have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little...
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the props for the market show that hopes for a debt ceiling will happen. germany and china are looking pretty good. you mention the corporate earnings. 68% of the companies are beating expectations. the questions you raise are very relevant. questions about whether the etf money is still coming into the market. durable goods and home sales and on wednesday we get the gdp figures which could keep the rally. >> we always keep tabs on the auto industry. pretty big news overnight from toyota? >> yes. they're number one globally between 2008 and 2010 in terms of vehicles sold. they got that crown back again this year in 2012 with 9.75 million vehicles sold. what's amazing about their retaking the number one position is they did it without china. they saw a 4.9% drop in china because of a territorial dispute between china and japan. they are looking for above average growth in 2013. very impressive status. >> steve, thank you very much. steve sedgwick, live in london. let us know why you're awake. give us an e-mail or tweet us@bshacklin. we'll read the best resp
the props for the market show that hopes for a debt ceiling will happen. germany and china are looking pretty good. you mention the corporate earnings. 68% of the companies are beating expectations. the questions you raise are very relevant. questions about whether the etf money is still coming into the market. durable goods and home sales and on wednesday we get the gdp figures which could keep the rally. >> we always keep tabs on the auto industry. pretty big news overnight from toyota?...
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and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budget in days. i think they're trying to make the best of a bad situation. absolutely w
and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >>...
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you have a plan to deal with the debt ceiling. i want you to explain it. i've been skeptical of it, but i'm coming around and see that they might actually be some wisdom behind it and i'm giving you credit as a strong credit of the cliff deal. explain it. >> what's going forward right now, we do not want to give any long-term new debt limit as you go forward. so what we're saying is here is the senate that has not produced a budget. you know it, sean, your listeners know it, but not many across america. the last time this democrat-controlled senate passed a budget, the ipad wasn't even introduced yet and they've already gone through what, three different versions? so we're doing a short-term moving the debt limit past the april 15th deadline, 'cause the most responsible thing any elected official could do is do a budget. how do you plan for the future. so we move it to there and if you don't pass the budget you don't get paid and now what? before that time, those cuts that we fought for in the last debt limit. they go into effect the first of the month. >>
you have a plan to deal with the debt ceiling. i want you to explain it. i've been skeptical of it, but i'm coming around and see that they might actually be some wisdom behind it and i'm giving you credit as a strong credit of the cliff deal. explain it. >> what's going forward right now, we do not want to give any long-term new debt limit as you go forward. so what we're saying is here is the senate that has not produced a budget. you know it, sean, your listeners know it, but not many...
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this week the republican party put forward a plan on the debt ceiling in debt and appears to have won the support of both the president and senate majority leader. the republican change in direction and tone was not matched by a change in the republican party's lead. the rnc reelected the chairman after losing both the white house and ten seats in congress to democrats in that 2012 election. his job as head of the national party even as lenient -- louisiana's popular governor and from a republican both cried out for the party's revitalization, new ideas, and the voices. obama administration stalwart treasury secretary gagger and secretary of state clinton bidding farewell to the administration. clinton finally this week testifying on benghazi, trying to explain away one of the administration's biggest failures. another week in which president obama has dispatched vice-president biden to campaign against the second amendment. the president's inaugural this week. next week he launches his campaign for comprehensive immigration reform. next week senator kerry to be confirmed as the next
this week the republican party put forward a plan on the debt ceiling in debt and appears to have won the support of both the president and senate majority leader. the republican change in direction and tone was not matched by a change in the republican party's lead. the rnc reelected the chairman after losing both the white house and ten seats in congress to democrats in that 2012 election. his job as head of the national party even as lenient -- louisiana's popular governor and from a...
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if not that fight, then in the next debt ceiling fight the next debt ceiling fight. the demand nor spending cuts isn't going to go anywhere. >> bill: barney frank, he would be fired up, ready to go. he knows she is issues. he knows the fiscal issues better than anybody else. >> deval patrick said he would be happy to have him. he didn't endorse it per se but he expressed sort of opens to the idea. >> wouldn't be a big learning curve for barney. >> bill: no, not at all. i think it would be very tough for governor patrick not to appoint him. i mean who else could step in and have all of the information and all of the experience you need to really fight for the people. >> i was going to say -- >> bill: now, of course, so is it is sort of a relief the fiscal issues are out of the way and we can talk about something else like maybe immigration reform. very unusual to see these days eight senators, four from each party, agree on anything, correct? >> it is. >> bill: you cover the congress. you're there. >> i do. filibuster reform deal that killed filibuster reform. this is
if not that fight, then in the next debt ceiling fight the next debt ceiling fight. the demand nor spending cuts isn't going to go anywhere. >> bill: barney frank, he would be fired up, ready to go. he knows she is issues. he knows the fiscal issues better than anybody else. >> deval patrick said he would be happy to have him. he didn't endorse it per se but he expressed sort of opens to the idea. >> wouldn't be a big learning curve for barney. >> bill: no, not at all. i...
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and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and their reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. and if we take the prudent course, you know what? we'll be in really good company. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder, the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention, he lost some key arguments. you know, he fought the plan to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he thought it was deeply unjust. and at first he wants -- he wanted congress to be able to ve
and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give...
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. >>> the republican house the bill temporarily raises the debt ceiling until may. law americas won't get paid if they fail to pass a budget. >> american families have to do a budget. they understand you can't continue to spend money you don't have. we are committed to doing a budget on the house side that will balance over the neck ten years as time for the senate and president to show the american people how they are willing to balance a budget ore the next ten years. >> the democratic controlled senate is expect to do approve the debt bill. it has not pass add budget in four years. >> phil mickelson wasn't talking about his guolf game. he was teeing off over another apology about his tax comments. >> i have made some dumb, dumb mistakes and obviously talking about this stuff is one of them. my apology is for talking about it publicly. i shouldn't take advantage of the forum that i have as a professional golfer to try to ignite change. >> mickelson hinted earlier this week he may leave california or the united states because of how much he's paying in taxes. calif
. >>> the republican house the bill temporarily raises the debt ceiling until may. law americas won't get paid if they fail to pass a budget. >> american families have to do a budget. they understand you can't continue to spend money you don't have. we are committed to doing a budget on the house side that will balance over the neck ten years as time for the senate and president to show the american people how they are willing to balance a budget ore the next ten years. >>...
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house republicans pushed through a bill to extend the debt ceiling and tying congressional pay to passage of the budget. senate majority leader says he is okay with it. outgoing defense secretary leon panetta is changing policy to allow women to serve in front line combat positio positions. we'll get a live update for the pentagon. your tax dollars are sending f-16 planes to egypt despite anti-semattic comments made by egypt's new leader. busy day on "special report" at 6:00 eastern but now back to "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: you were saying? >> dana: so, greg, almost just caused a problem on the show. >> greg: no, i didn't. >> dana: yes, you did. wow! he doesn't know the words to that song and he was making them up. there is a certain word that rhymes with "truck" he was going to sing. i was supposed to talk about facebook and social media how it can be a blessing and a curse. we talk about this the other day. so, remember back in high school, if you found out that your friend invited another friend go to an event but you didn't necessarily know about it right away. it wasn't rubbed in y
house republicans pushed through a bill to extend the debt ceiling and tying congressional pay to passage of the budget. senate majority leader says he is okay with it. outgoing defense secretary leon panetta is changing policy to allow women to serve in front line combat positio positions. we'll get a live update for the pentagon. your tax dollars are sending f-16 planes to egypt despite anti-semattic comments made by egypt's new leader. busy day on "special report" at 6:00 eastern...
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a political crisis over the debt ceiling might be further off than you think. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel tells us about an idea to push the deadline the summer. >> sources say treasury officials told them to extent the debt creeling to mid-may could be stretched so the next deadline for action won't be until august if the senate passes the bill. to buy more time, they say extraordinary measures can be taken. the senate republican leader calls the debt crisis a chance to make the both leaner a more efficient. >> reducing the debt we eliminate an additional drag on the economy. so this isn't a conversation about austerity. it's a conversation about growth. and opportunity. >> republicans say part of getting the nation's fiscal house in order requires cutting government spending. democratic talking point this week is spending isn't the problem. it's the media. >> i am not going to keep cutting the discretionary budget which by the way is not out of control. despite what you hear on fox news. >> though this graphic from the office of management
a political crisis over the debt ceiling might be further off than you think. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel tells us about an idea to push the deadline the summer. >> sources say treasury officials told them to extent the debt creeling to mid-may could be stretched so the next deadline for action won't be until august if the senate passes the bill. to buy more time, they say extraordinary measures can be taken. the senate republican leader calls the debt crisis a chance...
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we had gone through the debt ceiling. and that the united states budget situation was not the clear and present danger that it had been in the past. >> the neville chamberlain moment, right? >> you could be right about that. you could be right. i'm just saying -- >> half full or half empty at least we agree on exactly the level, right? and half if not at all. >> i like the idea that we can now turn from emergency measures to questions of how we create growth. there were a lot of good discussion about that and it would be nice -- >> talk to ben about that. he's obviously not aware that we're not in crisis anymore. >> i know we've got to go. but it would be nice to begin our conversation from here on out. how do we make growth instead of how do we put our fires? that's a different conversation. >> you'll never learn that at davos. >> you want to have one of those arguments, rick or just -- we're much more civil than those guys, right? >> hey, civility. the highlight of monday. >> and friday. >> thanks, guys. >> all he needs
we had gone through the debt ceiling. and that the united states budget situation was not the clear and present danger that it had been in the past. >> the neville chamberlain moment, right? >> you could be right about that. you could be right. i'm just saying -- >> half full or half empty at least we agree on exactly the level, right? and half if not at all. >> i like the idea that we can now turn from emergency measures to questions of how we create growth. there were...
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republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling. that took away a little bit of their leverage going into negotiations at the end of february. here comes paul ryan. where has he been? he is making this line in the sand now. i think the white house is concerned because this could hurt the economy going forward if we go through these deep cuts and right now the white house is saying we need to keep the economy moving. we have to keep all eyes on that and continue to have growth and jobs. there is concern for the white house. >> ryan took one of his famous charts on "meet the press." you can tell immediately what he thinks the problem is, more spending cuts are needed. paul ryan says increasing revenue is off the table for now. the gop, the tax hikes during the fiscal cliff stuff. do they do it again? >> he was also asked and side stepped whether or not you could close loopholes. it is another way to get revenue. that is what david gregory asked him. he had a nonresponse response to that. there are other ways to get revenue than across
republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling. that took away a little bit of their leverage going into negotiations at the end of february. here comes paul ryan. where has he been? he is making this line in the sand now. i think the white house is concerned because this could hurt the economy going forward if we go through these deep cuts and right now the white house is saying we need to keep the economy moving. we have to keep all eyes on that and continue to have growth and jobs. there is...
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ceiling bill that's now come over to the senate, it looks like the senate according to senator murray will now take up a budget. this is important because while republicans believe that spending is the problem not a lack of taxation, it's going to be a revealing exercise to see how this budget markup goes in committee and then, of course, on the floor. and it will be, i'm sure, a challenge for those who believe that more revenue is a solution as opposed to reining in spending to see how senate democrats produce 51 votes to pass a budget by the april 15th deadline. >> senate republicans just released a video that highlights the president's past statements when it comes to tackling the debt and his actual record when it comes to tackling the debt. and when out comes to reducing the debt as we would say out in the west, the president has been all hat and no cowboy. in other words, he's been all talk and no action. what we've seen over the past four years as trillion dollar deficits every single year, the debt has ballooned by 50%, and so the president's record and his rhetoric just don't
ceiling bill that's now come over to the senate, it looks like the senate according to senator murray will now take up a budget. this is important because while republicans believe that spending is the problem not a lack of taxation, it's going to be a revealing exercise to see how this budget markup goes in committee and then, of course, on the floor. and it will be, i'm sure, a challenge for those who believe that more revenue is a solution as opposed to reining in spending to see how senate...
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ceiling and procedural matters. let's have our big fights about substantive budget issues down the road. trying to tell the more adamant tea party members that they have to get real if they're going to win again. >> i love the fact that paul ryan is emerging as that voice that's going to sort of shape and form the ground on which this new effort by the party will stand. here's the dance. the dance, though, is the rhetoric is one thing. you have the washington class talking and saying what we have to do, and we're going to do this, and rubio and the crew are going to roll out on immigration issue today. that's all great. how does the typical tea party activist respond? are they ready to make that move? do they believe that it's credible? do they believe that this undermines or augments our principles and what they believe and we believe to be an important part of this discussion as much as the effort at outreach and the effort of making the right soundbyte. have to marry that up. there's one thing for the leadership
ceiling and procedural matters. let's have our big fights about substantive budget issues down the road. trying to tell the more adamant tea party members that they have to get real if they're going to win again. >> i love the fact that paul ryan is emerging as that voice that's going to sort of shape and form the ground on which this new effort by the party will stand. here's the dance. the dance, though, is the rhetoric is one thing. you have the washington class talking and saying what...
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and they're willing to go over the -- to let the debt ceiling collapse. they were willing to shut down the government. that's not really the kind of thing that -- that speaks to a new direction for this party. >> john, we're talking about immigration reform, right, today. is this the pivot point. is this where you might see republicans come together with democrats? >> it could be. i do think, though, i've seen this before where the senate come up with a plan without any input from the house. and then the house decides not to do it. >> right. >> i think this is the problem. that you've got to have cooperation. i do think there are some ways you can make it easier for people to get citizenship without actually getting into amnesty. and i think that finding that trick is going to be difficult but can be achieved. i do think that for republicans, it makes a lot of sense strategically to get immigration passed. if we're going to have a good conversation with hispanic voters, we can't do it in the context of holding up immigration reform. it also has a real big
and they're willing to go over the -- to let the debt ceiling collapse. they were willing to shut down the government. that's not really the kind of thing that -- that speaks to a new direction for this party. >> john, we're talking about immigration reform, right, today. is this the pivot point. is this where you might see republicans come together with democrats? >> it could be. i do think, though, i've seen this before where the senate come up with a plan without any input from...